Friday, February 08, 2013

NSM Commander Jeff Schoep Downplays Connection Between White Power Music And Acts Of Racial Violence In Response To Arno Michaelis

On February 7th, 2013, WJW Channel 8 in Cleveland published a story entitled "Hate Rock: Racist Rant or Civil Rights Serenade?", which briefly explored the possibility of a connection between white power music and acts of racial hatred perpetrated by whites towards non-whites. Cited prominently in the story is a professional anti-racist activist named Arno Michaelis, who, according to his website, was a founding member of what went on to become the largest racist skinhead organization on Earth, a Reverend of a self-declared Racial Holy War, and lead singer of the race-metal band Centurion, selling over 20,000 CDs. Michaelis says that although he claimed they were white men and white warriors, in reality they were just drunken thugs, and even notes that one night he broke a gay man’s face with his elbow because he was drunk. But then in 1992 he had an "epiphany"; when he picked up his daughter from daycare, he saw her playing with kids of all races, which motivated him to re-think his life. That's how he eventually became anti-racist.

But WJW Channel 8 wanted to get the other side of the story. Instead of contacting hometown resident Erich Gliebe, who still heads up Resistance Records, they decided to contact the most publicly prominent white power group in the country -- the National Socialist Movement. And Jeff Schoep responded, saying that they don't like to use the word "hate" because they see themselves as civil rights activists. Here's the section where Schoep is quoted at length:

Commander Schoep doesn’t see a connection between the songs produced by the National Socialist Movement record label and any acts of violence.

“Obviously there have been certain members who have done certain things but you’re gonna have that in any political group,” said Schoep.

And when asked about the blood-thirsty lyrics and racial epithets used in many of the songs he said, “Yes there are some violent lyrics in some of the music, but with the artists you have to have freedom of expression.”

He says the songs are no more aggressive than those performed by some rap artists.

“Sure it can make people uncomfortable, maybe it should make people uncomfortable. There’s a lot of boiling anger and rage in the white community, especially young white guys,” said Schoep.

But Channel 8 decided to limit the story to the effects of white power music alone, and neglected to report on the effects of mostly-black hip-hop music, despite the bloody trail of dead rappers left in its wake. Hardly a month goes by in which some black rap artist doesn't get shot somewhere. When's the last time you've heard of any white power musician getting shot at a concert? The dichotomy was picked up by a couple of people who posted comments to the story:

Brian Reinhardt 10 hours ago:
There are literally dozens of rap "kill whitey" songs by black "artists" like Onyx, Gravediggaz, Wu-Tang Clan, Sunz of Man, Da Lench Mob, RBX, Ice Cube, Killarmy, Ol Dirty Bast***, Brand Nubian, Menace Clan, Dr Dre and others and we're doing a story about "white hate music"?

Let's be EQUAL and do a story about HATE MUSIC BY ALL.

Then and only then will it be seen as relevant and non-discriminatory.

SusanL14 hours ago:
Ok. Now let's review the promoted hate and violence that's spewed out in rap music.

Citing Arno Michaelis' activities back in 1992 is a bit disingenuous; that was 20 years ago, and the white nationalist movement has cleaned up its act somewhat since that time. WJW missed a golden opportunity to make a more recent comparison, and to include the effects of rap music in that comparison as well. But at least they did contact somebody from our side.

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

Never heard of this "Arno" sounds like he's making himself out to be important than he was, like Johnny Clary or TJ Leyden. Im guessing he associated with the pathetic Boy George Burdi, who was indeed a leading figure in that White Power music scene. We all know what Georgie did. Wonder how his "anti-racist" multi-racial band is doing? Maybe playing to a few people at a crackhouse? LOL.

Look, no offense, I know there are some good skinheads, but yes, I would imagine that there would be a lot "drunken thugs" in that scene.

In regards to racist rap "music," yeah, the jewsmedia gives it a free pass, as is to be expected. Nigger "Ice Cube" who referred to Whites as devils and crackers and had Khalid Muhammad (advocate of White genocide) do speeches on his album, now acts in Hollywood movies and produces TV shows. Hey, we know how it works.

And the media goes to the NSM for their opinion. Of course. No further commentary needed.

Earl said...

A.A.

Check out the NS Acumen of the Old Guard website and that latest article posted. It really hits the nail on the head in a few of words as possible about whats wrong nowadays with the pro-White movement.

Anonymous said...

Skinheads and their stupid so-called music, have been the worst thing to ever occur to the WN movement. I'm not surprised that Jeff Schoep sells this un-NS crap, as he himself is of the skinhead persuasion. Schoep is everything that Dr. Pierce was against, a bonehead, a costumed hobbiest, a race-mixer and a degenerate by any standard. No wonder the jews always go to Schoep when they want the perfect piece of shit, to complement their bullshit propaganda. Floyd H.

Waylyn Gilbert said...

The Jew Media has been cramming nigger hate music down our throats since the early eighties about raping white bitches and killing cops this article isn't even worth reporting on unless someone is trying cultivate anti white feelings , oh of course they are, duh , What happened to NSM88 streaming ?

Anonymous said...

Hate music is the last thing we need in the movement. All it brings in is dysfunctionals, as we've all seen.

Anonymous said...

20,000 CD's, and I imagine they went to 20,000 people? In that case, where are these people? Listening to this noise certainly didn't turn them into activists, or we would have an army out there. Now, if we had 20,000 people reading WHITE POWER or WHICH WAY WESTERN MAN, perhaps we would see an improvement in our horrible situation,eh? Maybe we need to produce 20,000 coloring books, for the mentally challenged...

Anonymous said...

Jeff Schoep and the NSM sell this shit, yet Scheop tries to back-peddle when it comes down supporting it, does he ever take responsiblity for anything, nope. According to Schoep, IF the niggers do it, it must be ok for the White man too. Duh. Is that why Jeff lives the life of a nigger, making babies and abandoning them and their mothers, for a new bitch on a regular basis? That Jeff burglars White people's homes, and has never held a real job in his entire lifetime, instead leeching off Zog for a disability check for a mental condition his most of his life...like a nigger? So niggers do it, Jeff thinks he'll do it too? No wonder he likes dark meat, he thinks that White men should act like niggers, because niggers get away with it? So niggers play kill-whitey music, White men should follow suite, acting like a bunch of pale niggers? What is NSM except a wimpy sort of 'white gang-bangers', anyways. I agree with the poster who says that the reason that the jews turn to Jeff Schoep whenever they want a moronic soundbite, is because he'll be sure to please.

adam forbes said...

I say the music has its place, not all of it is trash. Listen to some inspirational songs by Saga, or Ian Stuart. Not all of it promotes violence. The youth like their music, its a means of reaching them.

Anonymous said...

Those skinheads dancing to that music look like something the niggers did in those old King Kong movies. lol

Anonymous said...

Shoep should have asked he jackass about all the anti White propaganda by the Universities, Hollywood, popular publishing, TV , etc, motivates murder of White's !!

Anonymous said...

A while ago I watched a program about skinheads and their music. It really looked kind of gay, a bunch of obviously drunken, bald, tattooed guys dancing and bumping with each other, no females in sight like a bunch of homo savages, hugging and screaming white power at each other like they were experiencing orgasmic pleasure. Honestly I was kind of embarrassed seeing this dysfunctional behavior by grown white men. I can't truly say that I enjoyed the so-called music either, it sounded like a lot of gutteral screaming with some background noise of drums and guitars. Viewing this, I had to pause and think about how low our once great race has become, when all this is considered to be 'white music'. Intergration really brought our youth down to the level of the jigs, and whats even worse, is that many racialists seem to condone it. Even Dr. Pierce bought into it, when he found he could make money selling it. That disappointed me a lot, and eventually led to my leaving the National Alliance. This music trend is sadly another instance where entertaining people did not lead them into getting involved in the struggle, instead it siphoned them off into a 'cultist scene' that distanced them from our average white man or woman, something we don't need for sure. This movement is like a carnival, with tattoed freaks, wierd religious nuts, and outright con-men peddling crap to the patrons. The only sensible voice anymore is that of Chairman Suhayda and the ANP. Ron Babbett

adam forbes said...

I usually just speak my peice, and move on. Not all Skins are the disfunctional tards that some make us out to be. A good majority are dedicated to the Cause. I expect to have this comment met with b.s. and slander...

Anonymous said...

This is a bullshit piece. The ANP should have been interviewed about this, Rocky knows more about this than poop Schoep. Our ANP music Dept has a large outreach and we don't do mindless hate like the hollyweird nuts. We are able to tap the talents of our White and Non White and Gay supporters and have music that reaches a lot more people than stupid skinhead types. Learn more about real activism by getting a ANP Info Pack from National HQ for a $5 donation. All of our ANP mailings are sent in an unmarked, brown, security envelope. Our monthly White Worker is just $20 a year. Cash or money order. ANP, P.O. Box 85942, Westland, MI 48185/ Steve..ANP

Anonymous said...

Adam,
I agree with you. There is indeed some good White Power music, Ian Stuart was a true leader and innovator who dedicated his life to the WN cause. Though a lot of the WP music is certainly that stereotypical obnoxious noise, poor musicianship and vocals that arent much more than yelling and spewing mindless hate. But there is some quality stuff. Same with skinheads-
Yes,unfortunately many do fit the hollywood "American History X" type cliched image. But I know there are some good ones, I refuse to simply condemn every skinhead as being bad and tarring them all with the same brush. I would hope that many could channel their energy into positive political activity, not waste it on the "music scene" with its boozing and brawling. The music does have its place, but it shouldnt take precedence over the cause in general.

adam forbes said...

Well, there you go! Anp, claiming to be the best, I had faith in you at one time. Now you condone Homo support? No thanks anp or the nsm for that matter. Oh, thanks to Anonymous 5:17. You get it. Respect and Pride!

Anonymous said...

4:54PM is a troll, the ANP doesn't sell music, nor does it condone queers. Someone is using the "BIG LIE" against the ANP. And some of you are apparently falling for it. lol 88!

Anonymous said...

Yes, thats what I figured 4:45PM was, he's made similar posts before, trying through inuendo to smear Rocky and the ANP. Fortunately, when you read the ANP materials, nothing of what he claims makes sense. I guess when you can find nothing concrete to attack someone about, you simply try and throw mud at the wall, hoping that some of it will stick. It only shows how desperate these anti-ANP people really are.

Anonymous said...

This Jeff Scheop guy has to be the most pitiful so-called representative of National Socialism that I've ever seen! I went over to his website, and read the few things that he's written and its all a mishmash of conservative dribble. No references to National Socialism, past or present, it really makes me wonder if he has any understanding of Adolf Hitlers ideology and worldview? Being a longtime follower of the New Order, I've been looking for a new NS organization to join, since the NO is pretty much dead in the water, due primarily to Commander Koehl's advanced age. Mr. Scheop is clearly too much of a Hollywood Nazi for my tastes, so I'll throw my support behind Rocky Suhayda's American Nazi Party. I remember Rocky when he was with the Detroit Unit of the NSWPP back in the 1970's, and he's been fighting the Good Fight as long as I have myself. I urge other Old Fighters to take a close review of the ANP too. Its time we had just ONE logical NS organization in America, carrying the banner of Hitler and Rockwell. Bernie Rust, Heil Hitler!

Anonymous said...

I agree. Rocky and the ANP are the best to join.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

On a different angle on this story I'd like to focus a little on Erich Gliebe who runs Resistance Records.

As the commentator noted; here's a Cleveland TV station doing a story and one would think that they'd want to pick up on a local personality to interview like Mr. Gliebe.

The commentary infers that the news people just simply passed Mr.Gliebe over as irrelevant and this could be the case.

However, just as likely, I suspect, is that he was contacted and either ignored their invitation or declined to be interviewed.

He seems to be very publicity shy for some reason and as a normal practice has been ignoring media requests for years.

The same goes for the moribund National Alliance that he heads up, which like the New Order someone else mentioned, is totally out of the picture as far as representing the interests of White people.

Anonymous said...

I'm always confused by the movements working with the enemy, so that the enemy can achieve its ends. The jew comes to you, requesting this or that, so that they can twist your words and actions, and you comply? Isn't that kind of stupid? We all know that the jew will never give us a straight up shot at telling our side, so why let them use us as their joisting post? Dr. Pierce and the NA, along with Rocky and the ANP have long followed this policy. Its only the usual movement media whores who jump on the chance to appear in the jews news, so the jews turn to them. Like its ever helped them any, getting negatively smeared in the enemy media.

Anonymous said...

Media whores, that funny! Altho in a sense thats what these guys are. The jew comes calling and these idiots desperately fall all over themselves to ingraciate themselves to get a few seconds of time on the jew-tube. Do these jerks even get paid for being such available tools for the jews to use and manipulate?

Anonymous said...

Hey 5:38AM haven't you ever heard that ANY PUBLICITY is GOOD PUBLICITY? LMAO! Its like the daily jews media smeared you, saying your a child-molesting, serial killer maniac. Everyone would know your name, and they would have burned into their minds the image that the jews media smeared you with, even if it wasn't true. So it goes with these media-whores as you correctly call them. Unless we can get a fair shake from the enemy media, I believe that we ought to avoid them like the aids virus! They only mean to harm us as much as possible, why in the world give them a hand by stupidly playing along.

Anonymous said...

How old are you people? Man up and stop bitching about everything. I have been in the movement for over 5 years and I never heard so much whining and complaining except for on this blog. Makes me wonder if ya'll are even in the movement or care about our people. There's so much crap going on right now that need our attention yet some of you seem to focus on your own agenda.

Anonymous said...

10:51PM if you want to hear the same old discussions about the same old worn out topics, go to VNN or Stormfart. There you can rehash and rehash to your wildest wetdream! Here, instead we have OPEN discussion thanks to AA. Whats you problem anyway? Does the truth hurt, and you would rather not deal with it? 5 Years? Hell, I've been in this for decades and its overdue that we "aired the bedding".

Anonymous said...

Here it is March, and no NSM rally in Texas. When are we going to quit taking Kostume Commander Jeffy Poops lies as truths? That tard will say anything to anyone, to get his name in the jewsmedia. Just like his phony Travon Martin NSM patrols in Fl. that never happened, last year. Instead of Kommander, Schoep ought to be crowned King - of the Bullshitters!